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		<title>Comment on apparently the first iteration of this post was bizarre by simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 01:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for those who missed it, it was titled, &quot;happy birthday, mr. president.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for those who missed it, it was titled, &#8220;happy birthday, mr. president.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on butts wynd by Otis Finley</title>
		<link>http://www.natecharlow.com/blog/?p=244#comment-393</link>
		<dc:creator>Otis Finley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 04:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My family and I were there a year ago.  Laughed at the name, and just found out that a wynd is an alley.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My family and I were there a year ago.  Laughed at the name, and just found out that a wynd is an alley.</p>
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		<title>Comment on appeals to linguists by nate charlow</title>
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		<dc:creator>nate charlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 14:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That would depend on whether &quot;toturing kittens&quot; is a rigid designator. Maybe it is. But lots of other ways of referring to actions (e.g., &quot;how Mary treated her mother last night&quot;) are not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would depend on whether &#8220;toturing kittens&#8221; is a rigid designator. Maybe it is. But lots of other ways of referring to actions (e.g., &#8220;how Mary treated her mother last night&#8221;) are not.</p>
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		<title>Comment on appeals to linguists by Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 14:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: &quot;(unless it is one of the puzzling kinds of sentences, which, we’ll suppose language of type K is typically not)&quot;

I&#039;m no expert on this, but don&#039;t a lot of people think normative claims are &quot;potentially informative necessary truths&quot; (which you say is one kind of &#039;the puzzling kinds of sentences&#039;)?  For don&#039;t many philosophers think that there&#039;s no possible world in which torturing kittens for fun is morally required?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: &#8220;(unless it is one of the puzzling kinds of sentences, which, we’ll suppose language of type K is typically not)&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m no expert on this, but don&#8217;t a lot of people think normative claims are &#8220;potentially informative necessary truths&#8221; (which you say is one kind of &#8216;the puzzling kinds of sentences&#8217;)?  For don&#8217;t many philosophers think that there&#8217;s no possible world in which torturing kittens for fun is morally required?</p>
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		<title>Comment on appeals to linguists by simon</title>
		<link>http://www.natecharlow.com/blog/?p=973#comment-551</link>
		<dc:creator>simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this may be because i came of age in the facebook era, but i&#039;m starting to think that 99% of what comes out of peoples mouths/keyboards isn&#039;t assertion-apt in the standard inflationary sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this may be because i came of age in the facebook era, but i&#8217;m starting to think that 99% of what comes out of peoples mouths/keyboards isn&#8217;t assertion-apt in the standard inflationary sense.</p>
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		<title>Comment on appeals to linguists by nate charlow</title>
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		<dc:creator>nate charlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 05:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually don&#039;t have a worry, as such. I&#039;m more just voicing the suspicion that these sorts of arguments are worrying, although actually I&#039;ve been happy to make them in the past.

Still, whatever that worry is, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s going to be the same as your worry, since philosophers, as such, don&#039;t really seem to have a distinct, inflationary view about assertion. Certain philosophers hold such a view, but they&#039;re a pretty small bunch. Another difference: linguists and philosophers seem, as far as I can tell, to be working with the same concept of assertion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually don&#8217;t have a worry, as such. I&#8217;m more just voicing the suspicion that these sorts of arguments are worrying, although actually I&#8217;ve been happy to make them in the past.</p>
<p>Still, whatever that worry is, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s going to be the same as your worry, since philosophers, as such, don&#8217;t really seem to have a distinct, inflationary view about assertion. Certain philosophers hold such a view, but they&#8217;re a pretty small bunch. Another difference: linguists and philosophers seem, as far as I can tell, to be working with the same concept of assertion.</p>
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		<title>Comment on appeals to linguists by Shen-yi Liao</title>
		<link>http://www.natecharlow.com/blog/?p=973#comment-549</link>
		<dc:creator>Shen-yi Liao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 04:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is the worry just one of equivocating relevant concepts/notions/terms like &quot;assertion&quot;? for example, say a moral philosopher wants to say something about morality and positive emotions, and appeals to psychologists who define a positive emotion as &quot;anything that an animal has evolutionarily developed to work for&quot;, then there clearly is something illegitimate about that appeal---that just isn&#039;t what philosophers mean by positive emotion.

i expect your worry to be more than that, but i am not sure i see it clearly yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is the worry just one of equivocating relevant concepts/notions/terms like &#8220;assertion&#8221;? for example, say a moral philosopher wants to say something about morality and positive emotions, and appeals to psychologists who define a positive emotion as &#8220;anything that an animal has evolutionarily developed to work for&#8221;, then there clearly is something illegitimate about that appeal&#8212;that just isn&#8217;t what philosophers mean by positive emotion.</p>
<p>i expect your worry to be more than that, but i am not sure i see it clearly yet.</p>
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		<title>Comment on do imperatives license optimism for the viability of meta-normative non-cognitivism? by nate charlow</title>
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		<dc:creator>nate charlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 19:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there are some different reasons to be optimistic (or at least not pessimistic), and I even agree with Alwood that those reasons are supplied by imperatives. But the semantics of mood, per se, is probably orthogonal to this.

If anything, I think it will push the noncognitivist into the sort of hybrid views defended by Boisvert and Copp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there are some different reasons to be optimistic (or at least not pessimistic), and I even agree with Alwood that those reasons are supplied by imperatives. But the semantics of mood, per se, is probably orthogonal to this.</p>
<p>If anything, I think it will push the noncognitivist into the sort of hybrid views defended by Boisvert and Copp.</p>
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		<title>Comment on do imperatives license optimism for the viability of meta-normative non-cognitivism? by Anders</title>
		<link>http://www.natecharlow.com/blog/?p=962#comment-547</link>
		<dc:creator>Anders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 06:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this is a reason to be optimistic on behalf of the noncognitivist, it says a great deal about the current state of noncognitivism.

At least, I won&#039;t be holding my breath while proponents of noncognitivism try to generalize Asher and Lascarides&#039; arguments concerning (1) and (2).

I should probably apologize for writing such unconstructive comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this is a reason to be optimistic on behalf of the noncognitivist, it says a great deal about the current state of noncognitivism.</p>
<p>At least, I won&#8217;t be holding my breath while proponents of noncognitivism try to generalize Asher and Lascarides&#8217; arguments concerning (1) and (2).</p>
<p>I should probably apologize for writing such unconstructive comments.</p>
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		<title>Comment on fruitless formalism? by Craige Roberts</title>
		<link>http://www.natecharlow.com/blog/?p=431#comment-530</link>
		<dc:creator>Craige Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;re probably onto something here.  I read some of Aloni&#039;s older stuff and was put off by the obtuse formalism.  I have strong feelings about keeping the formal tools simple so that the insights shine through.  Otherwise, the reader has to guess whether it&#039;s worth her trouble to figure it all out.  I guess I have struggled through too many formal frameworks in my time only to figure out in the end that they&#039;re ill-motivated.  So it&#039;s getting harder to be patient.

And maybe more important: it&#039;s my belief that when a theory is essentially complex (which you&#039;re suggesting is not the case with Maria&#039;s), something is usually missing.  But because of the complexity, it&#039;s difficult to untangle it all and see what the real predictions are.  So it behooves the theorist to simplify, to assure the reader that complexity doesn&#039;t hide problems and to permit one to see the predictions.

Sometimes formalism is said to be motivated by other assumptions in the framework, about phenomena orthogonal to what&#039;s at issue; but then I like to follow the method of fragments, abstracting away from what isn&#039;t relevant to get at the core.

OK, off my soapbox.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re probably onto something here.  I read some of Aloni&#8217;s older stuff and was put off by the obtuse formalism.  I have strong feelings about keeping the formal tools simple so that the insights shine through.  Otherwise, the reader has to guess whether it&#8217;s worth her trouble to figure it all out.  I guess I have struggled through too many formal frameworks in my time only to figure out in the end that they&#8217;re ill-motivated.  So it&#8217;s getting harder to be patient.</p>
<p>And maybe more important: it&#8217;s my belief that when a theory is essentially complex (which you&#8217;re suggesting is not the case with Maria&#8217;s), something is usually missing.  But because of the complexity, it&#8217;s difficult to untangle it all and see what the real predictions are.  So it behooves the theorist to simplify, to assure the reader that complexity doesn&#8217;t hide problems and to permit one to see the predictions.</p>
<p>Sometimes formalism is said to be motivated by other assumptions in the framework, about phenomena orthogonal to what&#8217;s at issue; but then I like to follow the method of fragments, abstracting away from what isn&#8217;t relevant to get at the core.</p>
<p>OK, off my soapbox.</p>
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